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Author Topic: [COMPARISON] Fostex T30 regular version (black) vs Japan version (silver)  (Read 7459 times)

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Maaf butuh waktu lama utk nyempetin waktu nyiapin comparison review threadnya... :P

OK, sebagian besar dr kalian dah pada tau kan T30 silver arm fork punya gw ?
nah, gw berhasil dapetin kembarannya, yaitu T30 regular version, a.k.a world version...
yup, the black fork..yg dimiliki kebanyakan member HeadFi..

so, kenapa sih sampe mutusin lepas T10nya ke bro Agus demi cans yg satu ini ?
apalagi kalo bukan demi menjawab semua keingintahuan gw soal perbedaan dr keduanya..
dari yg gw tau sebelumnya adalah, katanya keduanya beda ngga cuma di warna fork&cover colour schemenya aja...
tapi juga perbedaan suara stocknya, keliatannya beda di tuningnya berdasarkan rilis dipasaran negara mana..
berhubung di kebanyakan negara keluarnya yg world version dan hanya jepang aja yg secara resmi keluar T30 silver fork, berarti cuma ada 2 tipe T30 yg beredar dipasaran..yg silverish lebih treblish dr yg world version yg agak dark..
setidaknya dulu cuma itu yg gw tau, dan gw lebih dulu punya yg T30 jpn, dapet dr temen ortho di HeadFi..
nah, setelah bbrp taun terbiasa dgn T30 jpn ini, juga mod2nya, akhirnya bbrp saat lalu nemu yg jual T30 world version a.k.a the black fork...
rasa penasaran yg telah lama tenggelam nongol lg membara begitu liat lapak tsb..
lnsg aja gw PM sellernya..ternyata org yg sama yg dulu jual T30 jpn, bwuahahahaaa..
so, krn kondisinya lbh miris drpd yg seharusnya (ilang 1 emblem&tanpa L&R marker) so asking pricenya lbh bersahabat drpd dibanding gw beli T30 jpn..lalu deal lah kami, dgn sangat terpaksa hrs lepas sang T10 yg udah lebih dulu hadir sbg cans anak gw..
tujuan gw beli T30 blk udah jelas, apgret dr T10 tentunya...tp first thing first, gw hrs bandingin 1:1 antara keduanya..
Lalu, setelah bayar bla bla bla, tiba hari paket tiba dr seller tsb..gw udah tau persis apa isi di dalemnya..
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yuk ah kita mulai bandinginnya 1:1..
kebetulan setelah bbrp taun gw apal bgt ky gimana T30 jpn saat pertama tiba..
utk review terdahulu bisa baca2 di
http://www.audiophile-id.com/index.php/topic,14679.0.html

sebelumnya liat fisik dulu, cuma sedikit berdebu..hmm, ada sedikit crack sesuai deskripsi sellernya...
juga emblem Fostex T30nya cuma satu...L&R marknya jg ilang dr forknya...
gampang lah, ntar ambil salahsatunya dr yg T30 jpn kan bisa..









coba liat dalemannya, apa sih pembedanya dr yg jpn..

hmm, sama kaya T10 nih...ada stiker "Aluminium solder only", ya ya ya..

lepas capsule driver, sama aja isinya yak..so, sejauh ini keliatannya identik...
*bisa intip thread review T30 jpn utk mastiin bedanya..

rada beda juga, pas lepas padsnya koq mesh grill+felt disc lense koq di tempel dipadsnya yak..
yg jpn kan di baffle nempelnya..tp bener koq, ini nempel di inner hole padsnya..koq felt lensenya lbh tipis & warna item ya ?
cuma black fabric sheetsnya aja yg tetap di baffles..coba samain scheme damping si japan dulu deh..

*ini foto utk nunjukin black feltnya aja..ini kondisi terkini damping schemenya..

lnsg tes bunyi, colok ipod photo...*dengerin, hmm...koq suaranya mendem dan kedengeran mono gini ya ?
masa iya sih ngga ngangkat ? kayanya ngga deh, coba colok ke Soul SE..lho, sama aja..
apa jacknya kotor ya ? FYI kabelnya masih stock tp dgn jack replacement yg kayanya bikinan Switchcraft..
harusnya jacknya kaya begini...

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so, jelas ini jacknya bukan stocknya...krn jack T30jpn gw mirip sama jack T30 blk yg punyanya anak2 HeadFi...
coba buka, hmm...kayanya koneksi solderan groundnya agak2 ngga bener dikiit..didorong dikit lnsg normal..
hmm, treblenya kaya roll-off ya...lownya sih kerasa lebih deep dr si jpn, tp memang lebih kerasa dominan bass jadinya..
dark ngga kaya open cans, midnya ala Fostex..biar dark ngga kerasa lelet speednya, cuma ya maunya sih treblenya ngga tenggelem kaya gini..ok, mungkin butuh simpel mod sedikit..kasih autosil ke seluruh bagian dalem cover housingnya utk ngilangin reverb plastik, utk backwave yg lbh smooth...lalu lining dynamat disekeliling capsule driver...
coba pindahin kabel braided Germania silver-copper eks T10 utk gantiin kabel stoknya, ok..mulai jelas bahwa treblenya, ngga laidback/roll-off atau sayup2 kaya sebelumnya..juga lbh refine...so sebagai gantinya, kabel stocknya gw pasangin ke T30 jpn..
nice! treblenya yg tadinya terlalu dominan crinknya jadi lbh smooth..so its a win-win solution for both..
bass jg lbh solid pake kabel stocknya T30 blk..T30 blk pake pads sony MDR XB500, wuih bodinya tebel+treblenya bagus...
sementara ini T30 jpn pake pads lamanya yaitu pads Sony MDR V700 yg udh mulai ada retak2..ntar beliin 1 lg deh pads XBnya, pads V700 udah mulai keras jadi agak pegel klo dipake lama..oh iya, headband clampnya si blk ini kenceng jg yak..
mau di unbend koq rasanya sayang, jadi lah dibiarin aja clampnya apa adanya..

ini foto mereka berdua dulu...


nah, skrg T30 blk'nya aja sendirian foto ganteng terus2an..

ini waktu masih pake kabel stok, felt bass lense nyobain punya si jpn yg warna maroon...


ini pas nyobain pake headbandnya si jpn yg lebih loose, lebih nyaman tp ngga berubah banyak suaranya...




ini sama pasangannya skrg...
photo by mauikutan a.k.a Anthony Prasetya @Audeze booth..

overall, si jpn masih lebih open & clink dr si blk..kurang lebih SQ selevel, beda karakter dikit...
sebagai gambaran, utk yg seneng LCD-X pasti cocok sama si blk..ya kan bro Antoni ?  >:D
utk yg seneng sama LCD-XC atau LCD-3 pasti suka yg jpn..
« Last Edit: Oct 10, 2014, 10:08:42 by iQEM »
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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DONE, tunggu apdet2 berikutnya ya guys..
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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hiks... T___T pengen...

amu yg jpn ato bukan, nunggu lengseran... dari om Iqem...



kapan ini gath lagi dah gatel kuping kangen Soul SE + T30
IEMs: PR18 | PR20 | BeatsTour | VB | HF30 | SHS8000 | EternaV1 | aJays2 | tJays4 | EPH100 | Carbo Basso
CANs: ON30 | F6 | PX100 | vJays | cJays | AD300 | WS55 | MS1i | HD25-1 | Momentum | XB700
DAPs: B135 | B152F | iNano1st | iNano3rd | YP-U3 | YP-X1 | YP-P2 | Clip+ | HM601 | X3 | AK100 | NWF887
AMPs: Gumstick | E3 | E5 | Ord.22
:mad: dan masih banyak yg kelupaan...

wishlist & WTB: SOUL SE & Fostek T30

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@Rahartha:
makasih bro, ini sekedar mengkomfirmasi pd dunia, bahwa Au-id ada yg punya T30 both version lho..kaya dulu NAD Rp-18 pernah ngrasain yg mylar&kapton version.. :headphones:

@mauikutan:
kalo ada next project, bukan ngga mungkin salahsatunya lepas koq Ton..
tunggu aja tgl maennya ya.. >:D

diadu sama Victor HP D50 seru nih, di rumah saat ini ada Yammienya Mbotie sama Aristona EK400 elektretnya gka yg ngga diambil2..
« Last Edit: Oct 10, 2014, 09:42:00 by iQEM »
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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wiidiii....piaraan baru Qem...?! :D

kalo bass-nya gimana? kok ga dibahas..?

jgn2 pindah aliran nih .... >:D

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ini yg kmrn gw unjukin Cis pas di booth Audeze, bass lbh deep&gambot dr si jpn.. :alis:
ngga kalah deh dr LCD series/Abyss, speed jg berani diadulah..
ganti aliran? kaga lah.. :metal:
« Last Edit: Oct 10, 2014, 17:02:57 by iQEM »
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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Ratjoen!
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sini Sen, adu D50 loe head to head ama duo T30 gw.. >:D
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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barter pinjem utk bbrp waktu boleh lah bro klo berminat, asal saling dijaga baik2..itu cukup..
soalnya klo rusak susah cari partsnya, apalagi penggantinya..kan udh buktiin ky apa T10 recable dr eks anak gw jg..
*walopun klo yg T10 itu malah dibalikin ke stoknya, jg tuker solid silver-copper cable germania ke cable dr JBL portable adek gw..
yg modnya terlalu crink utk selera gw..
« Last Edit: Oct 21, 2014, 09:02:03 by iQEM »
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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share dikit postingan gw di HF, semoga dpt pencerahan...
http://www.head-fi.org/t/111193/orthodynamic-roundup/23670#post_11158398
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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wah nice abis. dari dulu pengen coba dengerin fostex bro iqem, ga hoki2 haha.btw di hf lg ada yang jual yhd-1 tuh
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kpn ada waktu ketemuan aja yuk bikin meet ortho.. :alis:
abis taun baru gimana? gw usahain bawain T30 dua2nya deh..
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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next, T30's both version versus Victor HP D-50..
History: Motorola A2DP HT-820, Koss KSC11, sennheiser (PMX60), AKG (K24p, K26p, K518dj, K501 [LP] with K701 pads, K400 [LP]), Ultrasone (DJ1, HFI580), Audio Technica (ATH-2), Sony (DR-11), Fostex T20v2 mod, NAD RP-18 [basslight mod Kabeer], NAD RP-18 kapton modded with pads Koss MV1, Yamaha HP1 aniso mod, Fostex T10, Fostex T30 black/regular fork, with pads Beats Detox, Germania recabled, Shuffle 1st GEN 1gb
Now: Fostex T30 silver fork, with pads beats Detox + Yamaha YH3 modded + DIYcans 120ohm + ipod photo 4thGen 40gb + JBL Ref 510 NC mod + AKG K12p + dbE HF10 mod + S.O.U.L SEv.1 (custom)[/b]

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